Ep. 21: Pat Spinosa – Highlighting Rural America

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Speaker 1: Dude, So like a Farmer we’ve been doing. Josh Allen, the Bills quarterback, and I started Like a Farmer podcast probably two years ago. We had no idea what we were going to do, but we knew we wanted to highlight kind of rural America and we had to select few pillars under this umbrella that we really wanted to focus on. You know, outdoors, and that’s anything outdoors y’all get it. I mean, just getting outdoors, whether it’s hunting, fishing, farming, sports was a big thing. I think we’ve probably narrowed down sports that we’ve wanted to highlight a little.

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Speaker 2: More, whether that’s NASCAR, whether that’s college.

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Speaker 1: Football, you know, kind of those southern food I mean, this is the biggest thing right now, not only where your food comes from, but who’s growing your food. And then country music, I mean, dude, this is the number one genre streamed over the last two or three years and everybody’s getting into it. So Josh and I were like, look, if we can focus on those four pillars and do it the right way and be authentic about it, then we feel like we have something.

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Speaker 1: We did the the Red Bull Ranchers Strong. Am I allowed to say red Bull on here?

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Speaker 3: I don’t know, Yes, we did Red Bull once to sponsor the podcast or anything else, so.

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Speaker 2: I’ll do they’re the best fan.

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Speaker 1: But they did the Rancher Strong event in Texas.

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Speaker 2: He did one of our athletes, yeah, Brazilian, Yes, ye yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well I was like I’ve broadcasted the ABA, yeah, and like you don’t realize and y’all get it, but those duds are athletes, oh, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like really really good athletes.

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Speaker 3: So that was a Honestly, it was kind of like a CrossFit competition with ranching, is what it felt like.

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Speaker 2: When I saw the videos.

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Speaker 1: It’s like what every brand is either doing or trying to do right now. There’s this whole area in the country and it doesn’t matter what state, there’s rural pockets in Florida. California was the largest ac state in the country. Nobody even knows that, right, So like they want to attack that there’s sixty million people in rural America and it’s not really those people because that’s easy, right, Those are easy to go grab their attentions to people that want to be in that lifestyle. Red Bull’s like, hey, we want in and they did Red Bull Ranchers Strong in Texas. They called me up to broadcast it and it was awesome. I mean everybody. It was a rodeo style event and it was a great turnout and it was just.

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Speaker 2: Really cool to see. Like those athletes.

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Speaker 1: Are they they call themselves athletes too, Like you like, what are you talking about, Like you lift weights or you do crossfitings? Like dude, they can go and do anything they want and they they work on that twenty four to seven, their body, their mind, everything, like their unbelievable human beings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a gee one of our athletes, it trains here from Brazil. He went it did something to.

00:03:20
Speaker 2: A shoulder, just located his shoulder subluxed it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it’s the same thing, but it’s a little less aggressive. But he he missed the finals.

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Speaker 2: I think for some week. He got up there though, Yeah, he got up there. It was close. Who ended up winning that I don’t remember.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was obviously we had a female winner. We had a male winner.

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Speaker 2: And look it up. You know, you have to fact check me. Yeah, it’s all right. So give us your background.

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Speaker 3: You know, you said, uh, you’ve been farming ranching in Florida for generations, said brought cattle from Cuba.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dude, my family started a long time ago and six generations and citrus and cats, and it got to a point where, you know, my great grandfather started it. Then it just gets passed down in generations. But the funny thing about farming, it’s like that the generations never leave. I mean, it’s one of those things that you truly have to take them out in their casket from the grove.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather still goes to the office every day. Now, you know, my mom and my older brother have more recently took over the operation. But it’s a family affair and you’re going through the ups and the downs as a family, and it’s a necessity. I think it’s one of the most thankless jobs in America at least. But so my family started doing that, I went down a different route of like, hey, I knew I wanted to be an agriculture in some facet, I’m not the guy that’s gonna be out on the farm.

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Speaker 2: Every single day.

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Speaker 1: Like everybody’s like, well, you know you come from a farming family, you must be a farmer. And it’s like, look, I’m i start a company called Like a Farmer. I’m gonna live my life like a farmer. I’m gonna eat like a farmer, I’m gonna play like a farmer. I’m a party like a farmer. I’m gonna do every I’m gonna work like a farmer. I mean, twenty four to seven, whatever I put my mind to, I’m gonna do it like a farmer does it. But I’m not a full time farmer. I never want.

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Speaker 2: To be classified as that. I want to be classified as.

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Speaker 1: A guy that like made farming cool, promotes it. I mean, it’s just one of those things where it’s like we have a serious issue with this youth in agriculture of like We need that next generation step up and in multiple ways of like not only learning what farming is, but learning how to do it because think about what I mean, there’s tractors driving themselves now, Like technology is getting over everybody’s head. So we need my generation, y’all, the next generation to kind of keep up. Social media, where it can be a bad thing, is also a tool, though, and you need that.

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Speaker 2: In agriculture.

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Speaker 1: You have so many be farmers going direct to consumer, I mean, cutting the middle man out, like hey, let me grow it on my farm and let me sell it, let me market it, let.

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Speaker 2: Me sell it to the people. So we outside of.

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Speaker 1: You know, me wanting to promote agriculture. I started in finance, like I was at ag American lending money to farmers and ranchers across the country, and I had.

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Speaker 2: A passion for that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty came and you started to see a kind of a change in who your barber base was. We went from seventy percent full time farmers and ranchers borrowing money to doctors, attorneys, country musicians, athletes, Like what was happening? Well, everybody started looking over their shoulder like wow, I kind of want to I want to own a farmer, or I want to be an outdoorsman connected to the outdoors because like I’m stuck inside all day.

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Speaker 2: Hobby farmers start to get very popular.

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Speaker 1: Yellowstone comes out. Oh yeah, and you’ve got this Yellowstone effect of like okay, well now.

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Speaker 2: We have a quarter horse because of that movie.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to wear a cowboy bus, everybody wants to drive a pickup truck, everybody wants to listen to country music.

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Speaker 2: It’s like there is a.

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Speaker 1: Mission, a brand, however you want to say it, of like this rural America wave coming over the country and like I want to attack it. And I kind of looked at it as like, hey, I want to create the barstool of rural America. Focus on those four pillars like I mentioned earlier. And it’s like, Man, I’m behind the desk like I’m a bean calendar man, like I’m a I’m a lender, like I’m a nobody in front of the camera. So I need to go partner with somebody that is going to help me. Well, I happened to know this kid at a Fireball, California who would just played football at Wyoming. He got drafted by the Bills and it’s like, so I went. I was at Augusta National with Josh Allen, the Bills quarterback, and I was like, Hey, we know each other for a couple of years now, but I have this idea of like wanting to highlight rural America and all that it entails, and I need somebody like you to help me o because nobody people are starting to know now who the true Josh is of, like he’s just a small town farm boys. Well, but I was like, I need you to help me, dude. He thought about it for five seconds, So Pat, I’m in And that was the Restless History Man. We’ve we started to like a farmer podcast, but now we’ve got five or six shows under the MBROLLA.

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Speaker 4: How did you first get connected with him? Originally?

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Speaker 1: Because the business, like because both we both through agriculture, Like his family is still heavily involved in agriculture, My family’s still heavily involved in agriculture, and we just kind of got connected that way.

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Speaker 5: We hunted in Wyoming this year and everyone that was there that’s like from there, they were talking about how he’ll still do like local radio ads and stuff, like they had nothing but good things to say about Josh Allen. They love Josh Josh Allen. I actually didn’t realize he was from California. I thought he was from from Wyoming. The way they talked about him, I thought he was from Wyo town boy and we went to Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Fireball California. And I say this all the time. He hates when I say it, but it it’s the truth. You you get to a point in northern California, Fireball’s like more that sent esentially Fresno County area. You get to a point around the country where you have you’re either from the South and you just love college football, man like some of my boys down south, Like they don’t even know what Sunday is. They know what Saturday is, man Like, I.

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Speaker 2: Love college football. Yeah, be here, you know what I’m saying.

00:09:17
Speaker 1: And then you go into states like Alabama, Missouri, Uh, what.

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Speaker 2: Else am I missing that doesn’t happen?

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Speaker 1: Nebraska and like the NFL at one point kind of they I want to say, maybe went downhill a little bit. How they were dealing with some of the stuff, maybe kneeling social ads on social issues whatever. There’s a lot of fans that they lost. Well now when you go back to these towns and these even states that don’t have professional football teams, you ask him, who do you like? I like that Josh Allen kid like, he’s authentic, man, he he is who he is. He’s a country boy like he There is a lot of fans now of the Buffalo Bills be because of Josh Allen, because of who he is and where he came from. And that’s just, in my opinion, kind of has made the sport more popular because of him. And he hates when I say that, but it’s the truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, there’s a connection.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, you’ve got population centers that control a lot of we can get into whatever politics, but there’s a lot of people outside those centers that feel either unrepresented in sports in different current events, I guess. And so when yeah, when you have connection to a guy that is from where you’re from or from.

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Speaker 2: A situation that you’re in, yeah, okay, the connection is there for sure. And Josh seems like that dude.

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Speaker 1: Great team around him too, man. I mean, yeah, Josh changed my life, but his his marketing agent Stum who’s here in Nashville. He changed my life as well. I mean to have confidence in, you know, a guy that he had only knew for a couple of years to go start a business really based around him. I mean he’s a he’s a big time owner in this business with me, and uh, it’s it’s been really cool. I mean he’s, like I said, he’s authentic. You get what you see type of deal.

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Speaker 2: What percentage would you say is citrus? In which percent is cattle? For you guys? Family wise? Fifty to fifty?

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Speaker 1: I mean acreage wise, you know, obviously it’s more on the cattle side. Yeah, but when you think about your workload, what’s.

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Speaker 2: Your ratio down there? Shoot?

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Speaker 1: Man, I mean we’re lucky in Florida. I think what is in Texas? You got to have like one per acre? I mean, dude, we all throw five.

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Speaker 2: Or six per acre on there.

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Speaker 1: Not really, but yeah, in the cal calf operation now you can’t you know, you can’t raise them big enough to kind of take them.

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Speaker 2: You can’t.

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Speaker 1: But when we ship a lot of ours to Mississippi right now. But workload wise, and I mean it’s about fifty to fifty, but like acreage rise, yeah, but we’re still you know three to four an acre.

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Speaker 3: Three Yeah, And we’re about one and a half here, just depending on the year. And then the bison pretty similar buffalo similar to cows, they’re not there’s not a ton of difference as far as you know, feeding them out and that type of thing. The hard part, obviously is when you get them, get them corralled up, they get.

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Speaker 2: A little bit more ornery.

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Speaker 3: Granted, those highland cows on the other side of the driveway, those are my wife’s.

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Speaker 2: They’re yeah, yeah, those are pets.

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Speaker 3: Those are golden doodles with horns. And of them out the driveway there was one out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there’s usually three. There’s a three three of the calves. We gotta do a little bit better at the fencing.

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Speaker 4: They just yesterday and one today, one today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. They kind of come and go as they want. You know.

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Speaker 1: The cattle business is such a funny. I mean, it fluctuates obviously. Now it’s really everybody the last what eight, ten, twelve months, it’s like, hell, yeah, I’m in the cattle business. But twenty fifteen was really good. After twenty fifteen until right now it was really not good.

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Speaker 2: Citrus. It is what it is.

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Speaker 1: It’s just so like consumer base man. I remember when covid happened, and if you can get something to go viral online, you could hit like man, I heard if you drink orange hues it cures covid.

00:13:01
Speaker 2: I’m like, hell yeah, let’s do it. Put some lemon in your water, you know, like you.

00:13:06
Speaker 1: Just never know how the consumer is gonna, you know, take it. But the salt of the earth. Man, It’s so funny depending on what they farm. It’s like a dairy farmer so much different than a citrus farmer. Citrus farmer so much you know, different than.

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Speaker 3: Fight against the nut nut milks. What a citrus fight? You guys have a fight, like somebody go against dude.

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Speaker 1: We had a little greeny and greening. It’s a sylid that came over and it kills the tree so much.

00:13:39
Speaker 4: Asia they’re fighting big bug, big bugs.

00:13:44
Speaker 2: Who is it? No? Who was it? Oh?

00:13:46
Speaker 3: You watch did you watch the mediatter episode with Luke Calms and they were talking about putting lemon on your.

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Speaker 2: It’s a big citrus. You’re part of citrus. Yeah, yeah, you’re part of big citrus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, he is. He is big situation or.

00:14:01
Speaker 2: A big situation.

00:14:02
Speaker 3: That Angelo one of the other guys that’s on the podcast from time to time he’s against Chapstick because of big Chapstick, Big Patrol, Big Patrol.

00:14:11
Speaker 2: I was like, I don’t think Chapstick is there is their primary consumer?

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Speaker 5: Have you have you noticed you mentioned like, uh, maybe like a beef farmer going like direct to consumer. Have you noticed is that are those like large farms that used to sell to like a chain store or is it a smaller farm that’s just think you have a more creative way to get to the market.

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Speaker 2: I think it can be both, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I mentioned, there’s this middleman coming in that’s paying you X but then selling it to the grocery stores for a lot higher. I don’t think it matters what size it is. I just think immediately when you say you’re going to direct to consumer, what’s the number one thing now that you have to be a genius at.

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Speaker 2: And that’s marketing? Correct?

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Speaker 1: And now what all this market intel? Dude, it’s it’s boots on the ground, it’s activations, it’s social media. Like you just you’re you’re adding a new tool to your toolbox. That’s what I’m saying, Like, my grandfather can’t do that, right, you know, my mom?

00:15:13
Speaker 2: I mean I love my mom.

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Speaker 1: Like she’s the best, like, but she like, you need this next generation to come in because that’s what it’s going to go to.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Citrus, we have a co op, right like when anytime you drink Florida’s Natural, that’s our oranges, you know, a select there’s a handful of us that are in that co So but that’s the other thing, right, that’s marketing right there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I had I’m just speaking from the meat side. There’s so many regulations, and we had Bill Haggerty out a couple he’s a senator from here and just talking about how hard it is to get to a you know, get these things processed.

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Speaker 2: So like a guy like Scott, you guys do direct.

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Speaker 3: A consumer from a farmer every You’re right, you guys usually take a half or a quarter or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we just work with the farmer.

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Speaker 3: But technically have to buy the cow. Up, you’re not buying the meat. You have to buy the cow before it goes and I don’t know, do you guys have to go watch it be live weight and all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: So what happens for us is we we communicate with the farmer, we buy the cow, and then he takes it to the processor and then you basically just pay the processor from there and what you’re paying the farmer for is based on live way live weight.

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Speaker 4: We didn’t have to watch it.

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Speaker 5: But then the other thing too is like with you guys went to a specific facility for the bison, like this is a processor and you could take like a deer two. So everything is marked like not for sale, which obviously like.

00:16:34
Speaker 2: Is for sale.

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Speaker 3: So that’s the hard part and that obviously there’s systems around it. Ours when we were selling them at the coffee shop, which we’re trying to get away from, we.

00:16:42
Speaker 2: Talked a little bit off.

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Speaker 3: But the the regulations are you have to have a USDA processor.

00:16:49
Speaker 2: That doesn’t mean anything. It just means you’re paying a guy to watch them slaughter.

00:16:52
Speaker 3: There’s no difference in the way anything gets killed or anything.

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Speaker 2: Like the first processor we went to, we never went back.

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Speaker 3: If that tells you anything, you know, like, yeah, it was there’s no reason why this processor is better than that processor other than it had the they wanted to pay the USDA guy to get more and so the regulations behind a lot of that stuff, and I mean, what was it back during COVID this was I think they they they brought light to it, but there was.

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Speaker 2: Like four main producers or yeah, waterhouses especially, and you.

00:17:27
Speaker 1: Got four of them.

00:17:28
Speaker 2: And it’s just like, Okay, well.

00:17:30
Speaker 3: I’m all for government hands off, but also like, hey, that’s a bit ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I’m with you, But isn’t it funny Like we’ve been talking for ten minutes about important stuff that dude, you can’t turn on TV and you hear people talk about this, and you talk about are we allowed to have guns? How many genders can come into one bathroom?

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Speaker 2: Like they don’t.

00:17:51
Speaker 1: You probably can count how many times, like a politician says farmer or agriculture. It’s like, there’s stuff that we need to be talking about that.

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Speaker 3: Because if we’re not getting our food from us, where are we going to get it from?

00:18:04
Speaker 2: I was just and then that’s a whole other issue of other countries buying our property or our land and taking over food. I sorry, I can’t say that. I’ll you get.

00:18:14
Speaker 1: Two things that we have to be like independent on, like our military, our protection and our food source.

00:18:25
Speaker 2: I can.

00:18:25
Speaker 1: I can roll with the punches on everything else, but I can’t rely on another country protecting me, and I cannot rely on another country to just plumbing me. The food that we have leaving the States would make you sick. And because we’re feeding other countries, and that’s why this whole like other country is coming here to buy our land. Like, dude, that’s just not going to fly man, just not no, can’t it can’t.

00:18:53
Speaker 2: That’s a whole another issue.

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Speaker 5: I’ve got another can of worms. Done said, he’s got some hard hitters. I was curious to your perspective on this, not to like disparage any kind of farmer, right, but I feel like now there’s this wave of.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are.

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Speaker 5: Pushing for like smaller farms that might have crop and livestock on it rather than a huge, you know, feed lot of cattle or chickens or a giant corn whatever it may be. Like, I think you probably need both of those. But what do you think is like the fine line between the farm actually like taking away from the land rather than like regenerative regenerative farming, which I feel like is kind of a maybe a buzzword in the community, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. You have this group of people and there’s a lot of people that came in and want they wanted to get into agriculture to be a hobby farmer. Now, there’s two ways you can look at that. There was an issue with people that wanted tax right, like the green we have the green belt down in Florida.

00:20:02
Speaker 2: I don’t have it here, Okay, Like, dude.

00:20:05
Speaker 1: You’re coming in to buy you know, twenty thirty acres and you have to put three cows on it just to get like like a little bit break on your taxis like that, and they don’t even know what a cow looks like or even.

00:20:15
Speaker 2: How to spell cow.

00:20:16
Speaker 4: Just have them.

00:20:17
Speaker 1: Correct now the flip sidn are other people that just want to basically be, you know, their own supply or like hey, I am actually gonna grow my own food that are educating themselves on what farming is. Adririan Grenier who’s a great friend of mine, Vinnie Chase. Vinnie Chase from Entourage, y’all, have y’all watched the TV show Ontoage?

00:20:38
Speaker 2: No, I know you’re talking kidding Entourage.

00:20:41
Speaker 4: I’ll watch it.

00:20:41
Speaker 1: No, oh my god, when we like when you get home tonight, you need to turn on Entourage. Anyways, this New York guy moved into Hollywood, did all this Hollywood projects. Now he lives on a farm outside of Austin, and uh, he was the perfect example of like taught himself how to farm, and I can, I can get on board with that. That’s just being like, but it’s it’s the other side of like people that are just doing this just to get like tax breaks.

00:21:10
Speaker 4: On their proper right, Yeah, that’s a problem.

00:21:12
Speaker 1: Now you have to have some size when it comes to feeding the masses, don’t get me wrong, right, And that’s where you can go down that rabbit hole of like conservation. Conservation is one of the most important things that we have to focus on right now. That’s why And I’m biased towards Ducks Unlimited because my uncle’s the CEO.

00:21:29
Speaker 2: But what Ducks on the.

00:21:30
Speaker 1: Limited has been doing for you know, their lifetime is unbelievable. Because yeah, people say, oh, it’s just helping you shoot ducks. Well, you know, that’s that’s a perk to it, right, But it’s also like conservating the land.

00:21:44
Speaker 2: We do a decent.

00:21:46
Speaker 1: Job in Florida when it comes to conservation usments. You know, there’s a pool that you have to apply your property and to getting conservation usments. We went through a time where there was a big bucket of money for that, and now we are getting back to that time so that some like things that the government could do to help agriculture in the future, because you do need masses when it comes to acreage to feed the masses of that mas.

00:22:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, that’s that’s all. It is a hard.

00:22:14
Speaker 3: Conversation or a hard thing to wrap your brain around. Yeah, you’ve got to have We have lots and lots of people in this country, and there are a lot of people that are hungry in this country.

00:22:23
Speaker 2: There’s man, it’s just such a balance, you know.

00:22:25
Speaker 3: And we can get biblical with that, we can get whatever. But like when you start just giving.

00:22:30
Speaker 2: Away stuff or handing out stuff, it makes people lazy. If there needs to be.

00:22:34
Speaker 3: Some type of work or some type of something to get those benefits, like there’s we can go down some deep rabbit holes there. But yeah, I mean, if we were all Ish, Me and Scott are from the Midwest. You know, Scott lived in the Midwest for longer than I did. I was there for four years.

00:22:49
Speaker 2: But all my family lives in Michigan, and my mom’s parents were farmers, produced to Kroger those types of things. And so you see that though, and that’s.

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Speaker 3: A hard living in a hard life to live. You know, there’s a difference in farm and ranch. A lot of people, you know, most of the people ranches livestock and farm is vegetable essentially, but man to live both of those lives just hard lives, and people don’t want to do that. And so then these big companies take on those farms, and then you’ve got a big problem.

00:23:23
Speaker 1: Corporate America has been and is very heavily into agriculture. And you can look at it two different ways, whether that’s a good or a bad thing. I mean, they’re paying, they’re paying a lot, and there’s some you know, multi generational family farmers that are that are getting i guess quote unquote their payday. And you’ve got a lot of corporations that are leasing it back to somebody that actually knows how to farm.

00:23:51
Speaker 2: But they’re not full of me.

00:23:53
Speaker 1: They’re looking at the asset, right, I mean, real estate’s your most appreciative asset you can have on your balance sheet. It’s the number one thing that’s not making it. I think it’s better than cash, especially any more. Land exactly, and it’s tough. I get it, man, I’m not sitting here saying like you’re lucky here when you look outside of your barn and your house.

00:24:11
Speaker 2: To have all this real estate.

00:24:14
Speaker 1: Conservation easements is a must. But we all get it, especially down where I’m at in Florida. We got a thousand people a day moving to Florida and they need somewhere to live. But there’s something to be said of, like you still have to have that dirt to grow on, and you probably could get you know, more educated and doing you know, more food and smaller acreage. And I think that’s kind of what a lot of people are working on. But I’m I’m under the thought of, like I’d rather have food for us than having more people move here every single day.

00:24:50
Speaker 5: So yeah, we have a bit of that too, I would say, like specifically in Cookfell Yeah, especially, yeah like that. I mean, I’m sure Nashville has a giant influx of population, but in our like small like just since I’ve lived here, so I’ve been here since twenty twenty, the amount of people that have moved to Cookville and like apartment complexes and you know, house neighborhoods.

00:25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a publix here. We’ve got a PUBLICX here.

00:25:16
Speaker 1: That’s what I’m saying.

00:25:16
Speaker 2: That should tell you right there.

00:25:18
Speaker 1: I’m from. I’m a Florida kid. If you know that, if you’ve got a Publix in your town, you’re doing something right. Bro, you got a Cane’s Chicken. I went to Knes last night when I got it.

00:25:25
Speaker 2: Amen, we’re about to get an in and out and a target and a target. Oh yeah, in and outs moving?

00:25:29
Speaker 4: What do you? Okay, I can go down that rabbit.

00:25:31
Speaker 1: I have to shocker in and outs moving over here from California.

00:25:34
Speaker 5: Okay, I have to circle back to this Can’s Chicken because I think I think that Can’s Chicken, of like the fast food chickens is the best chicken, and he doesn’t.

00:25:45
Speaker 2: I’m chick fil A guy.

00:25:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, who did I have get into this all the time?

00:25:49
Speaker 2: Oh it was Glenny Glennie Balls, you know.

00:25:51
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I had the mount Rushmore Chicken.

00:25:53
Speaker 2: Uh you said chick fil A. Yeah, I’m just chick fil A.

00:25:56
Speaker 4: Well, I’m thinking too from I’m not going total.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: I’m going quality.

00:25:59
Speaker 3: I’m not going total, man. You I’m going to chicken tender to chicken tender. That’s it, because that’s all Knes has is chicken tenders.

00:26:05
Speaker 4: I’m just talking chicken.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: I’m gonna sure.

00:26:09
Speaker 1: I’ve been thinking about this a lot. I like Zaxby’s number one.

00:26:14
Speaker 2: So I would put Zaxby’s.

00:26:15
Speaker 1: I would put Zaxby’s in my on my Mount Rushmore. But dude, and I love like Todd Graves is somebody that like, he’s probably on my top five that I want on my show is because what Todd is built with canes is unbelievable.

00:26:30
Speaker 2: I do like canes, but I think I have to go Chick fil A ever canes Jesus chicken. Man, It’s like anointed chicken.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: It’s just really good chicken. It’s not as fried, you don’t feel as bad.

00:26:40
Speaker 3: So that’s I’m going on feeling taste like all of the above. You know, I do like canes.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: It’s great. Chick fil A’s just got my heart, you.

00:26:48
Speaker 1: Know, because you want to definitely go down a rabbit hole. Because what I did last night was I got my canes. I ate it and I just said feel good after it was great, but like you just feel up, but thank God I got the laying in bed and finally watch because I was at a hotel.

00:27:03
Speaker 2: You know, we can go down that rabbit. I had to watch Pat McAfee on YouTube yesterday. I watched Pat on YouTube every day.

00:27:09
Speaker 3: I usually watched I’ll catch it on ESPN. But I was just kids r out of school for snow, which you being from Florida, you understand. You get a sprinkle of snow and you’re out.

00:27:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, he’s like soft these kids, And I’m like, yeah, who cares you get out of school? Like I’m all for it.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: But anyway, so I was downstairs working out versus out here, and I’m, you know, trying to just catch up on a little bit of sports action from the weekend. I mean, all that mattered to me was Notre Dame one and the Lions one. But I, you know, like to keep up on the current events. And I went to YouTube TV and crap, there’s no YouTube TV, or there’s no ESPN.

00:27:40
Speaker 2: No nothing. So I went to YouTube and found it.

00:27:44
Speaker 4: So what do you what do you mostly hunt ducks that your heart your passion?

00:27:49
Speaker 1: Yes, on the heart and passion, dude, there, you’ve.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: Never been on a good duck hunt.

00:27:54
Speaker 3: I’ve been on a duck hunt where I’ve killed like me and my buddy one we went on a public, public water hunt and we got to get there at three am.

00:28:04
Speaker 2: To get to the spot, I slept in a tree, in a tree.

00:28:07
Speaker 3: I slept back with George Crouse give more deta on sleeping in the tree. So we had a boat, you know, like a just a flat bottomed boat, and there was like four or five of us and we’re trying to like get a little bit of sleep because we got there. We got there at midnight, got out on the water to get I forgot how it works, but anyway, you had to get to your spot and claim the spot. And they were like, I’m trying to sleep, and like my legs are hanging off the boat in my waiters and I’m just like, this is not comfortable. So I saw this tree and it had this like nice little bow to it, and so I climbed through the walked through the water, get up in the tree and I slept in the tree.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: It was terrible, was the worst thing ever.

00:28:45
Speaker 3: And then we shot at duck, me and me and my buddy both George Crosse shot at the same duck.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: So I don’t even know who killed it. Didn’t have a band on it. No, I gotta tell you a band.

00:28:58
Speaker 1: Sorry, going back to your question, dude, No, it’s that’s that’s my We should be sent around a fire. It’s my passion, dude. And we don’t have great duck hunt down in Florida. But close your eyes, everybody, close your eyes.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: Everybody listening, close eyes. Duck season. We’re gonna go night before.

00:29:26
Speaker 1: We’re all sitting by the couch the fire and you can just hear the little crackling and then you have a whiskey. You’re watching the Bills against the Chiefs Monday night football. It’s a little bit of late game. Those games go a little late anyways.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: Josh beats the Chiefs.

00:29:40
Speaker 1: You go to bed, little tipsy, and then you lay in this nice comfy bad because you’re in a cabin. They don’t have to be comfy or not. Like, as long as you’re in a cabin, you can hear the owls and whatever.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: Else you’re hearing wildlife wise, three.

00:29:53
Speaker 1: Am comes alarm, getting the truck, you head of the duck bline, You getting the duck blind and you hear some bacons cisling like we’re cooking breakfast in the duckline. Right when that daylight hits boy, green heads more than you can see, and you’re tapped out by eight thirty in your back of the camp, open your eyes. Those are the types of hunts man like and but you’re with your boys or your girls, like you’re just hanging out. You get to yuck it up, you get to move around, you get to just like really be in wildlife. And I like deer hunting. You know, down in Florida, it’s fine. You can get a basket eight, maybe a one twenty one thirty and you’re happy. Great turkey hunt down in Florida, I mean the ostial the turkey people are paying, they’re stoopid money to go kill that. But the deer hunting, you’re you’re kind of by yourself, like you have to be quiet, you can’t move, you don’t really get to enjoy anything like like dude, you have to be so like still, like you can’t and wait for something like that to come out. Which is great. It’s a beautiful animal and it’s a great trophy. But I’m more of an experienced guy and like there’s nothing like a duck hunt man.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: Take him on an all cut. Well, I did a buffalo.

00:31:07
Speaker 4: I do like yeah, oh that’s killed a monster.

00:31:10
Speaker 2: Hello.

00:31:11
Speaker 1: I do like big game hunting when it comes down to Florida. I just like it’s more of the ambiance and like hanging out with your peeps and hanging by a fire is nothing. We were talking about the top three duos of all time the other night, and like a bourbon and a fire is on my top three duos, you know what I’m saying. Like a dn Affleck and a Matt Damon, that’s my duo. When it comes to a movie, Kobe and Shaq, Like that’s a duo that would probably be.

00:31:38
Speaker 2: My top three. Yea.

00:31:39
Speaker 4: It sounds like we need to get on a good duck hunt, good duck hunt.

00:31:41
Speaker 2: I do.

00:31:42
Speaker 5: I do love duck, but yeah, I’ve never experienced like a super enjoyable duck hunt, good hunt.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I just like the results of it.

00:31:51
Speaker 3: You know, like several you get up at three, go out there, you put one thousand and a half ecoys out in the mud in the slow and then you see two of them and you don’t see any ducks.

00:32:03
Speaker 5: I think I think the equivalent to his duck hunting story for us was our experience pheasant hunting. Oh dude, as at hunting for for me was that same experience because it was so like, like you’re loud, it’s very casual. It’s more like a general it’s more of like shooting than hunting.

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, you’re not.

00:32:21
Speaker 1: I would like to maybe even back up and say any type of even turkey to an extent, because you kind of have to them coming to you. But yeah, any type of like I mean, duck, pheasant, dove. It’s a camaraderie. It’s the ambiance. It’s like you’re it’s a it’s a gentleman.

00:32:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, my, my, right now my mount rushmore of hunting is cow elk.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: As in that you’ve done it well, it’s just it’s fun.

00:32:46
Speaker 3: You the same you’re talking about a little bit more involved in that, like you gotta get up, you go climb some hills, you glass. All right, we found a cow elk, I don’t care what it rack looks like.

00:32:57
Speaker 4: And usually they’re just everything.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: They’re just everywhere.

00:32:59
Speaker 3: You got eight or ten and a herd, and you’re like, let me find a big body and I’m gonna shoot the big body and then we hang out and you got a bunch of meat.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: Now can I go on that?

00:33:07
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay, but is it Do I have to have a tag?

00:33:10
Speaker 2: Yeah? You gotta. Well, if you’re going to just hang out, no, but if you like.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: I know, but can I just say can you call me and say, hey, Pat, come on go buy your tag?

00:33:17
Speaker 3: Or is it like a lottery we have we have a place that we can just go buy it and I can just go buy it.

00:33:22
Speaker 5: For generally, like I feel like it’s much easier to get a coach a cow tag.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yes, you know.

00:33:27
Speaker 3: It depends on the winter killing where we’ve got a spot in Colorado that we hunt, and man, it’s it’s you could. I didn’t get a cow tag this year, but one of our buddies had a cowtag in the group and we saw one hundred and fifty cows in four or five days.

00:33:41
Speaker 2: And they’re just yeah, I’m on that.

00:33:42
Speaker 4: They’re fun man, And they’re just like, all right.

00:33:44
Speaker 3: Let me get into a position, tig shot, we go get it, you know. And then there’s like some it’s physical, but it’s fun. Like we just hang out in groups of three two or three. You got a spotter usually making sure you’re making the shot and it goes down.

00:33:55
Speaker 2: Then you got a camera guy.

00:33:56
Speaker 4: Usually like for the for context, unlike the cow.

00:33:59
Speaker 5: So the guy with cow tag had a buck like a mule deer buck tag, and so he was primarily hunting for that, and so he doesn’t want to necessarily like blow up the hunt all the time. But we’re seeing cows every time we’re out, and then all of a sudden he decides, like.

00:34:14
Speaker 4: I’ll go after that. Yeah, he’s like, I’ll go after that one. But then he killed that cow. Like it it’s I don’t want to say it’s easy, but.

00:34:22
Speaker 2: It’s easy, but it’s easier. It’s easier yet, but you’re not a selective you know, Like.

00:34:26
Speaker 5: It’s similar to like I would say the difficulty is similar to like if you have a good spot to have like a dough day and you go slay some does like you go go get a cow.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: A little bit more physically involved in going to kill something.

00:34:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like the difficulty in terms of like success rate would be similar.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: No, I get that, you’re pretty What about a moose hunt?

00:34:46
Speaker 4: Have you killed Scott?

00:34:48
Speaker 3: That’s Scott’s Scott’s dream for us and me and Scott like hunt in a pair and I was hunt and he gets it with the camera.

00:34:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to film a moose hunt and I’d love to do a moose hunt, like both both things on my bucket list.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: The hard part for me right now is my kids are so young, and you have to like twelve days in a row, like I can you get with elk hunting, and I can go seven days home for a week or two seven days home for two weeks seven days kind of the way we did it this year. We did two archery hunts and then a rifle hunt, and so but being gone for twelve or fourteen days and then my wife not having like contact, she rightfully so thinks that we’re gonna die every day that we’re out there because we.

00:35:26
Speaker 2: Do a lot of stupid stuff. But uh so she gets a little worried.

00:35:29
Speaker 1: So, dude, you’re I mean, you’ve got the whole fitness aspect to it, and you enjoy doing that.

00:35:35
Speaker 2: You’re good at that.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: But you have to do that. Yeah, do that type of hunting. I have a buddy right now, Brian Illig, and I do. That’s where I duck hunt is Maple Ranch just south of Kansas City in Missouri. He’s doing the North American twenty nine right now, And like he’s like at twenty two or twenty three out of twenty nine, and like, dude, you’re you’ve got to be physically and mentally like locked in to kill these animals.

00:36:01
Speaker 2: That’s awesome. So you said, you but he can’t kill a polar bear. That’s the that’s the tide would be the one, that’s the twenty nine.

00:36:07
Speaker 4: You said you did a buffalo hunt.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, that’s elaborate on that, bro. It was unbelievable, man, it was it.

00:36:14
Speaker 1: It was in Nebraska, Dismal River. And I’m kind of like y’all when it comes to like, you know, going with your boy or experience.

00:36:22
Speaker 2: I have a stepdad.

00:36:23
Speaker 1: My stepdad came into my life maybe right when I was eighteen, and I like to do, like once a year do trips with him, and it could be all I’m talking about from a uh a buffalo hunt to we went to Kentucky Florida basketball and that was just as epic as the hunt Florida one hunt a buzzer beer.

00:36:44
Speaker 2: It’s unbelievable.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: But so we get to Nebraska, man, and it was like it’s snowy, it’s cold, and we were glassing them and they were they were like on the other side of this river, and we were all right, we gotta go down and get him.

00:36:57
Speaker 2: We had an ATV and we got stuck and it took us.

00:37:00
Speaker 1: Until like ten to eleven PM that night to finally get unstuck, go back to the cabin.

00:37:05
Speaker 2: And you’re like in the middle of nowhere.

00:37:07
Speaker 1: Next day, you know, we go close to the same spot and that herd is now on our side of the river, which is awesome. And dude, it was one of those things where you kind of got lucky. There wasn’t a ton of them, but there was like four or five of them, and you could kind of like what you’re saying, you could choose someone that you really wanted.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: So bull tag or cow tag and yeah, like, dude, this SAME’s a month it was.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: It was nineteen hundred it’s almost like a nineteen hundred pounds. And just to be there and like you’re and we’re talking about like two feet of snow, like it’s snow and it’s cold, and like these they’re big, beautiful animals, man, And you know, I took a great shot on it.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: Let me shoot it with a I just built it. It was a why’d you just ask?

00:37:59
Speaker 3: It?

00:37:59
Speaker 2: Was? I? Had just built the gun.

00:38:03
Speaker 4: It was keep saying cowbirys until you.

00:38:08
Speaker 3: Seven mil seven mil three, keep going. I think what even else you would not the gun.

00:38:16
Speaker 4: That’s all I got.

00:38:18
Speaker 1: I’m gonna anyways, I’ll figure that out. But dude, I had to shoot it five times and there and then you go like when you finally got a fuel dress it out there and it’s like, oh, yeah, you put four in the long which you would think, yeah, like lung dude, but those animals are breathing like once every two minutes, it seems like right. And then that last one just happened to hit the heart and it just.

00:38:41
Speaker 3: Fell down the esophagus on a bison buffalo versus a cow. Well, we’ll look it up after or the trichia, it’s so much different. They can tell yeah, they can breathe for I mean that’s what they did.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: They run right.

00:38:57
Speaker 3: You look out here in the winter and the cold, and they’ll just be running around. It’s crazy versus cows.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: If I was so happy too, I took a picture. I will show you all the picture when we’re done. Like I had my shirt off and I’m like, it’s a grizzly man out there.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: I was so happy to make a rug. You do what else you do? Yeah? So the cool thing about when.

00:39:15
Speaker 1: You kill a buffalo, you get three trophies and you get your your European mount and that’s what like the legit you know, horns on it, and then you get kind of a cast corn on the skull itself, and then you get the rug so or the hide. I made a rug. I mounted, you know, the skull, winnowed the skull with the cast horn so not the legit horns. And then I gave the European mount to my grandfather to put it our cabin down the rams.

00:39:43
Speaker 5: That was like his birthday is incredible to oh it’s so good.

00:39:47
Speaker 2: So well, it’s just not as fat. I need a sweet bat And I actually believe or.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: Not, donated every ounce of that meat to a charity in Nebraska. I didn’t take any of it home. I’m I’m a beef guy.

00:39:59
Speaker 2: To have you had Have you had a buffalo Rabbi? Yes, I don’t like that man. The ones that we’ve had have been just as good, on par with with beef. Dude, I’m I’m that guy.

00:40:16
Speaker 1: It’s so funny, like like y’all, y’all got to come to our rants sound in Florida, Like it’s just as southern as it gets bro Like, I I’ll eat some like grilled up, maybe some poppers, like bacon and a peanut. Oh yeah, cream cheese and like you’ve growed up. But dude, for the most part, for that thing, and a friar man up dude like fried venison, fried gator, fried turkey, Like I love that type.

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Of stuff when it comes like cooking makes it good a little.

00:40:45
Speaker 3: We did so good. We actually fried those. You didn’t have that squirrel last year when Clay and Brent came out that was actually surprisingly good.

00:40:51
Speaker 2: I made.

00:40:52
Speaker 3: We killed a bunch of squirrels a couple of years ago. My son is just like that’s what he wants to do. He’s he’s like a squirrel dog. He shoot him, he goes to get some wants to carry him the whole time, playing with them, you know that type of thing.

00:41:03
Speaker 4: And uh, he loves squirrels.

00:41:05
Speaker 2: We made Uh.

00:41:06
Speaker 3: I made squirrel egg rolls for a Super Bowl party and nobody knew that they were squirrel and everybody loved him because it tastes like uh, it tastes like like chicken.

00:41:15
Speaker 2: Uh. It tastes like the dark meat on chicken. Honestly cool.

00:41:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everything just tastes like chicken.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. But they were great. And then people once they found out they were squirreling upset.

00:41:26
Speaker 4: But do you hunt?

00:41:27
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:41:27
Speaker 4: Have you done much like gator hunting down there?

00:41:29
Speaker 2: Then we just killed two of them there night.

00:41:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be so fun. I think you got a buddy that does that.

00:41:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves it. I gotta be.

00:41:42
Speaker 1: There was a point in time. I have not done this in a long time, so hear me out.

00:41:47
Speaker 2: So the statue limitation is past.

00:41:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there you could kill them as a as a nuisance on your on your cattle farm.

00:41:56
Speaker 2: I mean they were they number one.

00:41:57
Speaker 1: They killed the hell out of cattle dogs. But they were a nuisance in that we had killed some not on our proper. I forgot where I killed him anyways. But now in Florida, it’s a lottery system, and my buddy pulled two tags and so we went out there as a you know, you can get helper tags in Florida, and he killed the two. But it’s it’s a true lottery system where you put in the counties that you’d like to do and if you get luck, you can get a tag. Awesome.

00:42:24
Speaker 2: If you don’t get a tag, move on. He got two tags, so we killed them. We killed two.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: The air night’s awesome. It’s the best part. It’s so fun. And yeah, gator tail you just killed, you.

00:42:32
Speaker 2: Just eat the tail, right. Yeah.

00:42:33
Speaker 4: I was about to ask how much meat do you get off on those?

00:42:35
Speaker 2: We didn’t get a ton.

00:42:36
Speaker 1: We killed an eight footer and a seven footer. Last year I killed legally thirteen foot I mean, dude, there’s some like cheese. I mean, they’re they’re dinosaurs, some of them.

00:42:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the.

00:42:46
Speaker 1: Phosphate mines down there, or they’ll get those phosphate ponds and like you’re mining for like years down there in Florida and there’s just ponds that they just I mean they’re posted up for one hundred years in there, and you can’t know he can mess with him in there.

00:43:02
Speaker 4: So you kill a thirteen foot gator, it’s like one hundred years old.

00:43:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I’m just assuming like there’s some that get to one hundred years old. I don’t know the age of that one.

00:43:11
Speaker 4: Can you can you get them aged anyway?

00:43:15
Speaker 1: I’m I think there’s something kind of with the teeth.

00:43:17
Speaker 2: Like what you would see something.

00:43:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it was like when whenever he go a bear a couple of years ago, you’ve got to you gotta take it like the as soon as you can get it checked out by the Yeah, and uh, they took the teeth and aged it.

00:43:35
Speaker 2: I need I need to actually reach out to social a call and see what the age was.

00:43:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it would be cool to do out the gator. It’s like, yeah, this guy was seventy five years old.

00:43:41
Speaker 2: Because they get old. Dude, So how much meat comes off of seven to eight foot right here? Actually it was.

00:43:58
Speaker 1: You got eleven.

00:44:01
Speaker 2: Twenty ounce bags. Okay, so what are the big ziplog? Is that too?

00:44:06
Speaker 1: That’s two ounce bags, so it’d have been it would have been twenty four ounces of meat that came.

00:44:13
Speaker 2: Off of that. It’s like twounds almost.

00:44:15
Speaker 1: It’s seven and a half footer. It sounds about right. It wasn’t that blank You don’t get you’re not really we have so many big gators down there that like you’re kind of upset. But it’s one of those things like you don’t get a tag every year, so it is and truly it is kind of like a deer mentality of those smaller, younger.

00:44:35
Speaker 2: Ones actually kind of taste better. Yeah, for sure. So you go out and find those you don’t like. Yeah, you’ll go out to the lake.

00:44:41
Speaker 1: I mean if you get for instance, like Pole County, what the county.

00:44:44
Speaker 2: That we’re in.

00:44:45
Speaker 1: I mean, there’s a lot of lakes in Pole County and you just kind of know where to go, and you just get up there at night and you’re shining and you see its lights and you can tell by the width of the lights, like if it’s big, if it’s not big type of deal. And then after that, everybody has their own kind of mo where we have like a treble hook and we’ll we’ll cast it behind it and then real and then hook it and then and then you got the bang stick. But there’s some people that like, you know, I guess, maybe put a piece of chicken on the hook and hope that it bites it or anything like that.

00:45:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like so this this early this year, we deer hunted in Oklahoma with Clay Newcombe and one of the nights we had we had cat him or Brent caught the catfish, I don’t remember. One of the two caught the catfish and we fried it over the fire and some of Clay’s bear grease and and that was like the best meal I’ve had this entire year. I feel like a similar experience would be catching that gat down in Florida and then frying up some gatortail, Yeah, that night.

00:45:52
Speaker 4: That’d be pretty cool.

00:45:54
Speaker 2: Gatortail is like.

00:45:58
Speaker 1: It might be my favorite. When you think about wild meat, I do like turkey though a lot, like fresh all, like you just.

00:46:05
Speaker 5: Killed one of the things that I think is cool about like people that hunt. And we’re going back to like talking about the food sources and that sort of thing is certain moments and like intimate moments you have with your food, like talking about you know, you kill the turkey that day and eat it, or like last year I killed a dough up in Michigan and two hours later we were.

00:46:29
Speaker 4: Like cooking up the heart.

00:46:31
Speaker 5: Things like that that I think outdoors men have a greater appreciation for food, and it ties in like you were saying to the to the farming as well.

00:46:42
Speaker 1: It’s the most underrated thing about hunting, in my opinion, is like the the starvation piece and being able to be self sufficient, feed yourself and you know, just like y’all, I’m sure you’re shooting to kill, You’re not going and wounding bunch of animals and like that. That’s a huge part of hunting is to actually supply food for people. Yeah, there’s so many cool elements when you think about hunting that people overlook that make it a challenge for some people that don’t like hunting that just assume that we’re killing just to kill.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: It just gets overlooked.

00:47:23
Speaker 1: Like, I think there’s a huge mental health aspect to it. I think there’s a huge faith aspect to it. I think there’s a huge beautiful in tear design aspect to it. These camps around the country are unbelievable, guys. I mean, like it’s crazy, and that gets in my opinion, like, you know, a lot more people involved, it’s trades, and then like the food and cooking aspect of it.

00:47:45
Speaker 2: I think it’s really cool as well. Yeah that’s true.

00:47:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously everybody points the conservation of it. It’s like you you touched on it earlier. But hunters and vegetarians vegans want the same thing. Actually, they want healthy herd for them and their families to enjoy down the road. It’s like we want the same thing, we’re just going at a different way.

00:48:07
Speaker 5: Correct, going back to something you mentioned earlier, because it was something I wanted to circle back on and go a little deeper, talking about go back to farming, talking about getting the next generation of farmers or whatever that capacity is, whether it’s like a family farm or getting more people to get into it. Like what are some of the big initiatives to continue you know, these farming practices that we have to sustain our country.

00:48:35
Speaker 1: I think it’s it’s kind of what we’re doing. We are truly, like people say that’s cheesy, Like we are truly trying to make farming cool any way that I.

00:48:44
Speaker 2: Can do that. Yeah, it’s like, excuse me.

00:48:48
Speaker 1: It’s like people that you would never know are in farming or want to be in farming or in farming, like dude, von Miller. Von Miller is a beast.

00:48:56
Speaker 2: I love it. I think it was just like MVP, he didn’t realize he was still playing until they’re playing the Commander or like the Commanders the other night. That’s my boy.

00:49:05
Speaker 3: Like Von Miller, he’s a little slower, but he’s still here. And he basically had a pressure on golf that he.

00:49:12
Speaker 1: Is a dude, and they’ve got the greener pastures chicken. But guess what, it’s not just fine. Pat Mahomes is in Ed Oliver’s now and at Drew Brees is in it. Like if I can continue to shed light on how cool it is to be in farming, I think that helps outside. There’s definitely some governmental stuff that happened to I mean, like you gotta pay them more.

00:49:33
Speaker 2: We do. I’ve said this before.

00:49:34
Speaker 1: We do such a great job, whether it’s your law enforcement, whether it’s cancer patients, whatever it is, on highlighting them. There’s a whole month of football teams like doing a cancer initiative. I lost an uncle to cancer. I’m not like I like I need cancer to get figured out. It seems like every week you have somebody you lose somebody close to you from cancer. That’s an initiative that we have to continue to find out. That being said, like where are we at with the farmers, dude? Like how who’s feeding you? Like the SEC should be celebrating one weekend a year of every team wearing something that supports American farmers like you have because you have to have cross collaborations with industries to make it cool to make people.

00:50:23
Speaker 2: Want to do it. Does that make sense?

00:50:26
Speaker 1: Like country music and farming is a huge collaboration, farming and football and you can dissect it to whether it’s SEC football or a big ten or whatever. And some schools do don’t get me independent independent, like you have to have some cross collaborations to highlight it or dude, you’re going to bed.

00:50:47
Speaker 2: In fact, education is a huge piece of it. I think it is.

00:50:51
Speaker 1: But the money piece is like, dude, it’s hard, Like AI is not coming into my town. Like it’s like, dude, you got to wake up Monday through Sunday at five whenever you need to and work like it is the most thankless job out there. And they’re badasses, man, And like if everybody can do their part to like highlight not only farming, but it’s a lifestyle too, It truly is. It’s a great lifestyle.

00:51:16
Speaker 2: Man.

00:51:17
Speaker 1: It’s like it’s the back of a pic truck. It’s the back of a pickup truck lifestyle. It’s like, what’s in the cooler lifestyle. It’s turning on, you know, country music lifestyle. It’s like when you meet a lady, you take off your hat, when you shake a man’s hand, You look him in the head. You open the door for a woman, you say yes, ma’am, no, sir. Like it’s a lifestyle that like, there is an education piece to it, and we I think we’re not doing a great job getting people into this lifestyle.

00:51:45
Speaker 2: We need farmers.

00:51:46
Speaker 3: I told you a little bit yesterday. I was talking to both of you guys. My eight year old son yesterday we had to go We’ve got a little bit of a leak in our water system, so and so letting it run automatically in the valve open. We got a little leak, so we’ll just turn it on for a little bit, fill it.

00:52:00
Speaker 2: Up, turn it off.

00:52:01
Speaker 3: Well, while we’re doing that, put some feed out for the bison starting to get cold. And it’s way easier, especially those things. You open the gate, you have somebody in a vehicle, it pulls through. You’re not opening the gate getting in the vehicle, you know whatever. So I let my eight year old drive. I’ve got a little gmc canyon farm truck and I let him front seat. I’m like, all right here, so you know, put it in drive. He drives the ranger religiously. Kid can drive it great. I make him it’s gonna sound counterintuitive. I don’t let him put a seatbelt on because it keeps it in limp mode. So he’s driven that for the past probably a year now. Gas breaks. Like Scott the other day was like, oh, you let him actually drive, not just steer.

00:52:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, we’re we’re.

00:52:43
Speaker 5: Moving cameras and stuff for the deer, and uh, he’s sitting there and I just I thought Rich was doing gas and break and tries to sitting there steering, and then you said something about he’s like operating the whole thing. And then I’m like, which is terrifying. My first reaction is, well, I hope, I hope he doesn’t kill me. My secondary actions, that’s pretty impressive. He’s done a good job so far.

00:53:04
Speaker 2: And so yesterday, you know, he’s wanting to go out there with me.

00:53:06
Speaker 3: I was trying to save him from his mom killing him, and so I’m like, they were out of school.

00:53:10
Speaker 2: So we go out to the gate and I hop out of the truck and I’m like, all right, how am I gonna do this? Finally I was like, all right, buddy, you wanna drive the truck?

00:53:16
Speaker 3: And his eyes, you know, I must like it was like I told him he was a man, and uh so I explained.

00:53:23
Speaker 2: I’m like, hey, to put it. You know, usually you pull that the shifter down and put it in drive on the ranger.

00:53:28
Speaker 3: This is the same thing. It just has a button and I’m like pull through. When I say stop, you stop, and dude, I got He got through and he’s like, all right, can I keep driving?

00:53:37
Speaker 2: Like yeah, we’re in a you know, thirty acre field over here. He’s not gonna hit anything. And so I let him just roll.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: A man, you’d have thought he you know, he got done in that like sense of accomplishment, you know, the life skill, Like at eight years old, he’s driving a driving a truck, right, And so those are the types of things that you know, when we built the farm, it’s it is a business, but it’s not our main focus. But man, those life lessons that those kids get to get.

00:54:03
Speaker 2: And be a part of. And see, that’s what it’s about to me.

00:54:07
Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time, the life lessons that you can learn on a farm or endless. And the kids these days are way more intuitive than they were when I I mean they’re locked in. I mean, they’re they’re getting a lot smarter to be.

00:54:18
Speaker 2: Honest with you.

00:54:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it’s cool, man, I get to just we get to do those things and share those types of things. They don’t have video games, they don’t do any of that. They get to run out, you know, we don’t have fear of main you know, I’m like, hey, stay out of the woods in deer season because you get shot or you know, other than that, you know, they can go out. They’ve got you know, one hundred and seventy hundred and eighty acres right here that they can just go. And it’s you can’t put a price tag on that.

00:54:43
Speaker 1: No country is not where you’re from. It’s how you live, man.

00:54:48
Speaker 2: And that’s just facts. It just is.

00:54:50
Speaker 1: It’s how you live your life. It’s how you teach your kids, it’s how you retaire. Like, it’s a lifestyle that I want to be in, and not everybody wants to be in it, and that’s fine. And that’s why I always say, like, I didn’t start this company to lock in on the sixty million people in rural America. I started this company to lock in the people outside that are looking in, that want to be in this lifestyle.

00:55:14
Speaker 5: So yeah, where I guess where do you see you have the podcast right now, what other avenues or where do you see or I guess you have multiple podcasts you said on network, But like, whe are you trying to take this thing? To keep spreading that message?

00:55:29
Speaker 2: I ask myself that every day. Dude.

00:55:32
Speaker 1: It’s like, I mean, we have something really good. We will continue to build the brand, We will continue to add more shows, will grow the team. I personally want to do more stuff as well, Like I enjoy what I’m doing. Storytelling is one of my most favorite things to do, Like, I really enjoy that. So we have some we have some things coming down the pipeline that I’m excited about. I think you’ll see more activations, live events, and the show’s gonna hopefully be able to run like organically just on itself.

00:56:05
Speaker 2: But like myself personally.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: Like I want to continue to to do other things that still lead back to kind of what the main goal was, the mission that I call it a movement of just like you know, highlighting rural America. Rural America is so many things, man, It’s so many things. It’s like and I’m opinionated, I’m biased, but like you know, having faith in your life is like rural America like hunting, fishing is rural America, like treating women right and being a good dad and being a good mom and like you know, driving a pickup truck and wearing boots. Like it’s just this lifestyle that I really really enjoy and I want to continue to do more stuff with it. And I don’t know what that means exactly, like how I do it, but it’ll be more than podcasts, like I I like storytelling to answer that in the short form, like I want to continue to Yeah, And I don’t know what, whether it’s books, whether it’s movies, whether it’s whatever, Like I want to continue to do that.

00:57:06
Speaker 2: I love it, dude, I’m passionate about it. Love it, dude. Where can people find you anywhere? Baby?

00:57:12
Speaker 1: YouTube, any socials like typing Pat Yeah, just type in Pat no because you’ll see Pat.

00:57:18
Speaker 4: McAfee g man.

00:57:21
Speaker 1: But look, you can find me on like a farmer podcast on all your socials on YouTube, And like I said, activations, live events, We’re gonna continue to do it and keep a lookout for I’m being serious when I say, like cross collabing with other brands, like we have been so fortunate with our brands that have partnered with us, whether it’s to Coves, whether it’s Outlaw Beer, whether it’s case knives. In’t that crazy like knives, dude, you just know case knives because that’s what your grandpa always had in his pocket. But like they’re one of our biggest partners. Like they they’re picking up what we’re putting down. Like these brands are getting behind this mission.

00:57:58
Speaker 2: It’s so cool.

00:57:59
Speaker 1: So I would recommend that for anybody if you have a brand, to continue to cross collab on with whoever, because you’re just gaining a new audience.

00:58:08
Speaker 2: Get out there. I appreciate what you are doing though.

00:58:11
Speaker 1: Man, seriously, like the whole the fitness saying is just I wish I was.

00:58:16
Speaker 2: We’re gonna do a little work.

00:58:17
Speaker 1: Yeah we’ll work out, because I told all my boys I was coming here, and apparently like were you before we finished?

00:58:22
Speaker 2: I gotta talk.

00:58:22
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a couple of questions, Like they say that you were like the man in CrossFit back used to be.

00:58:28
Speaker 3: Used to be they cleared, you know, like when he’s like you used to be mel Clark, that’s me.

00:58:34
Speaker 2: I used to be rich Throning.

00:58:36
Speaker 1: But yeah, gotcha still hanging out, you know, I had speaking Angels in the Outfield. Neil McDonough came on the show and that was one of his one of my top Neil McDonough movies.

00:58:45
Speaker 2: So good, such a classic. And now he’s on.

00:58:47
Speaker 1: All of the TV shows with Taylor Sheridan, which goes back to the other thing too, like Sheridan’s doing the same thing like and doing it with no matter what you do.

00:58:56
Speaker 2: This is what I love about y’all. You have to be all authentic, man. You have to be you can’t be fake.

00:59:03
Speaker 1: That’s why the first thing I say is like, I know a lot. Oh yeah, I get to watch my my family do farming every single day. But I’m not a farmer. I’m not saying that I am, but I’m authentic to you and you have.

00:59:14
Speaker 3: To put spotlight on it and you’re doing what you know. I think it’s awesome man. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean I think authenticity is where it’s at. That’s what we’ve in the last couple of years. We partner with brands that we can be authentic with and be who we are, you know, like we don’t want to be super Obviously, you got to sell stuff to make it happen, but you also want to be authentic to it.

00:59:36
Speaker 2: So that’s a big If.

00:59:37
Speaker 1: You can be authentic and you believe in yourself.

00:59:40
Speaker 2: Dude, watch out make it happen.

00:59:43
Speaker 1: Believe like no matter. If you have an idea like believe, start an LLC. That’s excuse me, I’m gonna put that on a hoodie. Start an LLC like believe, Believe you can do something.

00:59:54
Speaker 2: You can do it. Love it awesome? Due, Yeah, let’s go do somethingness. Love it

01:00:01
Speaker 3: The po